Comments on: Clips and pics from Peter Jackson’s CROSSING THE LINE http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/ It's our turn. Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:19:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Red - The defining moment for the digital revolution « POPMODERNE http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-63947 Red - The defining moment for the digital revolution « POPMODERNE Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:25:20 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-63947 [...] YouMakeMedia : “The first short movie to be shot with RED Digital Cinema cameras, Peter Jackson’s short World War one film entitled Crossing the Line, is making a slow trek to the net in bits and pieces. [...] [...] YouMakeMedia : “The first short movie to be shot with RED Digital Cinema cameras, Peter Jackson’s short World War one film entitled Crossing the Line, is making a slow trek to the net in bits and pieces. [...]

]]> By: Jay http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-44908 Jay Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:03:20 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-44908 35mm Film is actually better quality then anything digital. including the red cam system... If you do the math a 35mm frame for film holds about 27mp (MEGAPIXELS) per frame. so having a storage space of about 320 gigs, for only 3-4 hours of footage isnt that bad for a day of work with the red cam... but it doesnt compare to 35mm. There is even higher capture settings for digital cams, red cam doesnt even come close to what 4x more the others offer. RED CAM is basically 2-4x more then current 1080p resolution... 35 is over 6x more... close to 10x 35mm Film is actually better quality then anything digital. including the red cam system… If you do the math a 35mm frame for film holds about 27mp (MEGAPIXELS) per frame. so having a storage space of about 320 gigs, for only 3-4 hours of footage isnt that bad for a day of work with the red cam… but it doesnt compare to 35mm. There is even higher capture settings for digital cams, red cam doesnt even come close to what 4x more the others offer. RED CAM is basically 2-4x more then current 1080p resolution… 35 is over 6x more… close to 10x

]]> By: Mort http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-16143 Mort Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:08:16 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-16143 they did all the shakes in post... that's why they look so bad. they did all the shakes in post… that’s why they look so bad.

]]> By: Chris http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-14974 Chris Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:29:27 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-14974 Joel is right. For what it's worth, I've edited the article to reflect some newer developments and changed thoughts on the subject. Joel is right.

For what it’s worth, I’ve edited the article to reflect some newer developments and changed thoughts on the subject.

]]> By: Joel http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-13684 Joel Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:50:03 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-13684 Jared: I think Chris was saying that they did the shakes poorly, not that they shouldn't be used. I believe he's saying that the shakes were not as dramatic as might be seen in other war films, and he's saying that perhaps they were being a little too delicate with the camera. Jared:

I think Chris was saying that they did the shakes poorly, not that they shouldn’t be used. I believe he’s saying that the shakes were not as dramatic as might be seen in other war films, and he’s saying that perhaps they were being a little too delicate with the camera.

]]> By: Jared http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-13640 Jared Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:40:50 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-13640 Granted the excerpt has weak points - the camera shakes are pretty bad (really - what was up with that? were they afraid of breaking the prototype? I think you confusing camera shake for style. The style was supposed to make you feel like you are there. And the shakes only occurred when there was an explosion (most likely added in post production). It was all part of the story telling and from a producers point of view. It was done well. Now if only I can see the full length version, I will be in heaven. Granted the excerpt has weak points – the camera shakes are pretty bad (really – what was up with that? were they afraid of breaking the prototype?

I think you confusing camera shake for style. The style was supposed to make you feel like you are there. And the shakes only occurred when there was an explosion (most likely added in post production). It was all part of the story telling and from a producers point of view. It was done well. Now if only I can see the full length version, I will be in heaven.

]]> By: Jim Long http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-6910 Jim Long Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:15:21 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-6910 'Scuse me, I meant to say, "the team from Red was there with the camera..." ‘Scuse me, I meant to say,

“the team from Red was there with the camera…”

]]> By: Jim Long http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-6909 Jim Long Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:13:20 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-6909 I just came back from the Cine Gear Expo in Los Angeles. They screened CROSSING THE LINE on the giant screen of the historic Wadsworth Theater and I was blown away by what I saw. The team from RED with the camera and I stood inches away from the real thing (it's a beauty). I just came back from the Cine Gear Expo in Los Angeles. They screened CROSSING THE LINE on the giant screen of the historic Wadsworth Theater and I was blown away by what I saw. The team from RED with the camera and I stood inches away from the real thing (it’s a beauty).

]]> By: Chris Van Patten http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-6337 Chris Van Patten Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:52:27 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-6337 (1) I disagree. It is better than film quality. It is grain/dust free. You can try to keep a clean environment all you want, but you can't avoid it. Perhaps film can reach a higher actual resolution (were you to convert it to pixels) but what good is it going to do you? Unless you are shooting IMAX, I still feel that RED is better than film quality. I was under the impression that we've known they would be delaying. They've told us the camera would be delayed for some time now, and the community was content with that. As far as I'm concerned, I've seen a film shot with it and it looks -great-. That's proof enough for me. All I see here is a disgruntled fan-boy who isn't getting what he was hoping for! (1) I disagree. It is better than film quality. It is grain/dust free. You can try to keep a clean environment all you want, but you can’t avoid it. Perhaps film can reach a higher actual resolution (were you to convert it to pixels) but what good is it going to do you? Unless you are shooting IMAX, I still feel that RED is better than film quality.

I was under the impression that we’ve known they would be delaying. They’ve told us the camera would be delayed for some time now, and the community was content with that. As far as I’m concerned, I’ve seen a film shot with it and it looks -great-. That’s proof enough for me.

All I see here is a disgruntled fan-boy who isn’t getting what he was hoping for!

]]> By: Joe http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-6335 Joe Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:10:48 +0000 http://youmakemedia.com/2007/04/23/clips-and-pics-from-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line/#comment-6335 The Author says "basically this is a camera that is better than film quality." This is a common misconception. Film Stocks nowadays and the super 35mm film format is still better quality than any digital imaging at present time. What it is, is cheaper for high definition. Granted it looks great, sounds great, and for the money would create a huge competitor for the likes of Sony and Panasonic and the Panavision Genesis system. Red is now on an "Engineering delay" from their web page, "RED is currently on an engineering delay, as we refine some components to reach our target image quality for the initial camera release. A revised approximate shipping schedule will be posted sometime in the near future." The release date was to be a month ago, now they have anounced a delay in June 2007. I believe the actual release date for this camera (bug free) is more like 2009. All the pictures you see of the camera are CGI, so dont be sucked in just yet. The Author says “basically this is a camera that is better than film quality.” This is a common misconception. Film Stocks nowadays and the super 35mm film format is still better quality than any digital imaging at present time.

What it is, is cheaper for high definition. Granted it looks great, sounds great, and for the money would create a huge competitor for the likes of Sony and Panasonic and the Panavision Genesis system. Red is now on an “Engineering delay” from their web page, “RED is currently on an engineering delay, as we refine some components to reach our target image quality for the initial camera release. A revised approximate shipping schedule will be posted sometime in the near future.”

The release date was to be a month ago, now they have anounced a delay in June 2007. I believe the actual release date for this camera (bug free) is more like 2009. All the pictures you see of the camera are CGI, so dont be sucked in just yet.

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